Woman in viral abortion debate with Charlie Kirk left biological facts at home

A video of a debate between conservative activist Charlie Kirk and 25 liberal university students has gone viral – particularly a segment in which he debates with a woman about abortion.

On Jubilee’s YouTube channel, Kirk took part in a “Surrounded” debate; the full video currently has nearly 3.5 million views. On X (formerly known as Twitter), a shorter clip from a debate about abortion has also received thousands of views. Yet while the woman debating Kirk received applause on social media, that applause has left many people baffled, as her claims were almost entirely false.

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“Viability” vs. “Alive”

The woman claimed that “viability” (usually defined as the ability to survive outside the womb) is “actually 24 to 26 weeks” after Kirk explained that it was 20 weeks and then continued, “Okay, so under Roe v. Wade“93% of abortions occurred in the first 13 weeks of pregnancy. That means 93% of abortions occurred long before the fetus was technically viable.”

The woman (as we will see from her further remarks) wrongly equates the ability to survive outside the womb from a certain gestational age with be alive.

An unborn human is alive from the moment of fertilization. It grows, develops a beating heart (which pumps blood) about 21 days after fertilization, develops a brain with detectable brain waves by the middle of the first trimester, and more – Months before it can survive outside the womb.

Does that sound like a non-living being?



Thanks to medical advances, premature babies can survive outside the womb as early as 21 weeks – but “viability” is an undefined, subjective point left to the abortionist, not simply a gestational age. Regardless, the “viability” argument is irrelevant; it is not acceptable to intentionally kill someone, even if he or she cannot survive in his or her current environment without help.

The woman also said that most abortions are performed before 24 weeks of pregnancy, which is true but again irrelevant to the question of life or when it begins. And even babies who reach so-called “viability” are killed by the thousands each year.

The CDC’s latest Abortion Surveillance Report states that one percent (1.0%) of all abortions performed in 2021 occurred after 21 weeks of pregnancy. Using the Guttmacher Institute’s updated abortion numbers for 2023 (1,037,000) and the 1% of estimated abortions after 21 weeks, this yields an estimated 10,370 Babies were killed at or after potentially viable gestational age in just one year.

Does a fetus have a species?

After this discussion about viability, Kirk and the woman argued about what a fetus was and why that definition was important.

Woman: Well, first of all, it’s not a baby, it’s a fetus.

Kirk: So what does fetus mean?

Woman: A fetus is in the womb.

Kirk: What does fetus mean in Latin?

Woman: What the hell? Excuse me, is this a language course?

Kirk: It means little person.

In Latin, fetus means “little one” and the scientific definition is: “An unborn offspring that develops and grows in the uterus of humans and other mammals. In humans, the fetal period begins 9 weeks after fertilization of an egg by a sperm and ends at the time of birth.”



“Fetus” refers to a mammal during a specific phase of development during pregnancy – the fetal stage; before that, the offspring is called a blastocyst, a zygote, and an embryo. None of these terms has any bearing on the nature of that offspring, because the Type of offspring Is the same as the parents of this offspring. Giraffes reproduce with giraffes. Elephants reproduce with elephants. Humans reproduce with humans. “Fetus” is simply a description for a specific stage in the life of mammals. In humans, this stage of development is one among many, such as newborn, toddler, adolescent, and adult.

Nevertheless, the woman claimed without scientific justification: “The fetus is not yet a species.”

A fetus conceived by human parents is… drum roll please… human. To confirm, consult a biology textbook.

Is the unborn baby a parasite?

The woman then referred to an unborn human as a “parasite” in the womb after claiming that the fetus was “not yet a species.”

“It’s technically classified as a parasite until it’s viable. … A parasite is not a disease and it’s not a tumor, they’re not the same thing. A parasite is defined as something that can’t survive outside of its host,” she claimed. “A baby, before it’s viable, can’t survive outside of a woman’s womb. Therefore, it’s not a living organism.”

As already mentioned, the woman actually confuses the concept of “viability” (the ability to survive outside the uterus) with “a living organism”.

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Furthermore, a parasite is introduced into the body of a host involuntarily, while pregnancy is a natural consequence of sexual intercourse between a man and a woman. An unborn child is not a foreign invader; it is the natural result of biological reproduction and is descended from both.

Unborn children are alive, even if they cannot yet live outside the womb

“Being a living organism simply means you can survive outside a womb, outside your host,” the woman said, adding, “That is synonymous with scientific feasibility.”

Except… it doesn’t. An organism can be alive and still depend on the provision of its producer to continue to survive. An organism is defined as “a living thing that has an organized structure, can respond to stimuli, reproduce, grow, adapt, and maintain homeostasis. An organism would therefore be any animal, plant, fungus, protist, bacterium, or archaeon on Earth.”

She added, “Because it’s not alive, and you’re standing up for the rights of something that’s technically not alive while sacrificing the needs of the living human woman.”

See the definition of “organism” above… “a living thing.” Both the woman and her unborn child are alive.

The organism in the uterus has its own unique human DNA at fertilization, which is formed from two living human cells of its parents – the sperm and the egg. These two Life Cells combine at the moment of fertilization to form a new, Lifegenetically different organism that begins to grow rapidly. Even as an embryo, the unborn baby grows and changes from within, a process that is unique to Life organisms.

The Endowment for Human Development (EHD), a neutral nonprofit organization dedicated to the science of fetal development, has written that “(b)iologically speaking, fertilization (or conception) is the beginning of human development.” Three weeks after fertilization, the human embryo’s heart begins beating and pumping blood throughout the body, although it has not yet formed four chambers and the three main sections of the brain are recognizable. Brain waves can be measured by six weeks, and the baby’s kidneys and liver are formed. By seven weeks, an unborn child can respond to touch.

The woman debating with Kirk also argued that an unborn baby does not have its own individual DNA, adding, “It’s actually directly their DNA. It’s 100%. It’s 50% their DNA.”

This is interesting because 1) she claims that the fetus has no kind2) She also claimed it is a parasiteand 3) it is Also and claims that this “alien parasite” has 50% of the woman’s DNA, i.e. part of her body.

Is anyone else confused by these conflicting claims?

The unborn baby’s DNA consists of the combined DNA of its mother and father. From the moment of fertilization, when the baby is still a single-celled organism, it already has its own unique, individual DNA, completely different from that of its mother or father.

A DNA test would show that the baby related to his mother, but the baby’s DNA is not identical to the mother’s DNA.

As EHD notes: “Fertilization begins with the contact of the sperm with the cells surrounding the egg and ends with the mixing of the 23 male and 23 female chromosomes…. The result is a single-cell embryo called a zygote, which means “joined or connected,” and it is the first cell of the human body. The zygote, like the egg cell, is covered by its protective shell… and contains 46 unique chromosomes with the entire genetic blueprint of a new individual. Chromosomes contain tightly packed, tightly coiled molecules called DNA. Amazingly, DNA contains all the instructions that this single-cell embryo needs to develop into an adult” (emphasis added).

Ultimately, the only thing destroyed in the online speed debate between this nameless woman and Charlie Kirk was common sense and basic biological facts.

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